Straight-Up Evil

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  1. eddie says:

    Would you label such conduct as evil if the same motivational methods were used to influence a different kind of behavior, such as to stop bedwetting or to encourage doing homework or chores?

    If SO: your complaint is not about "curing" homosexuality, and thus not a proper criticism of anti-homosexual sentiment; rather, your complaint is about child abuse.

    If NOT: why is "curing" homosexuality different from other behaviors that parents might want to encourage or discourage in children, such that attempts to do so are evil? Are there any other such behaviors, or is sexual orientation/identity/activities the only thing which parents are morally forbidden to influence?

  2. Charles says:

    First of all, Eddie, yes, these methods would be barbaric if applied to bedwetting.

    Second of all, the premise that homosexuality is a "collection of behaviors" that can be "corrected" has been proved false over and over again, as one ex-gay leader after another is caught with his pants down with another man.

  3. Chris Berez says:

    These techniques are most definitely barbaric and evil, regardless of whether they're applied to sexual orientation or something else. Creating an environment where a child is punished for random behaviors that are arbitrarily labeled as "wrong" (in this case, feminine) is cruel and psychologically torturous on a staggering level. Even if such methods were applied to something like bed-wetting, not only would they not solve the problem, the child would be looking at years and years of therapy. Shattering a child's self-esteem and forcing them to live in constant fear that the slightest misstep will result in harsh punishment is barbaric no matter what context it is used.

    It's also worth noting that the rate of suicide or attempted suicide is higher in gay teens than any other demographic. Ignorant, cruel shit like this is one of the reasons.

  4. KipEsquire says:

    Anthony Burgess based the "terror chair" scene in "A Clockwork Orange" on reparative therapy, which was widely used on young gays at the time.

  5. Ken says:

    Yes, eddie, if the same methods (withholding affection, contact, and even acknowledgment to four-year-olds based on vague and ambiguous behavioral parameters; encouraging parents to alternately beat or reward four-year-olds based on vague and ambiguous behavioral parameters rooted in the parents' insecurities — say, by trying to cure a kid of "acting low-class") — I would condemn it as evil.

    This sounds like a method calculated to research how easy it is to give a kid Reactive Attachment Disorder.

  6. astonied says:

    I guess we should see how well electric shocks work to "cure" a proclivity for rent a boys. Better yet I think Kraig should design an experiment to be used to "cure" Rekers.

  7. Robert says:

    What makes this even more odd, and nobody has mentioned it, is the obvious fact that Rekers seeks out much younger male partners for sexual companionship. One wonders if he got off on torturing this young boy…

  8. Robin says:

    Yep. This practice is morally wrong. Are you then agreeing with critics of moral relativism? That part confused me.

  9. Armando says:

    Terrible stuff. Like something out of a David Cronenberg film. Mr. Rekers should've been brought up on child abuse charges for carrying out this 'experiment'.

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