The Curious Case Of The T.V. Attorney And Twitter

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  1. Jeremy says:

    Thanks for the screenshot, she's updated it. She does at least make mention that it could be a hoax, but that with north korea, anything is possible.

  2. That Anonymous Coward says:

    What I found much more terrifying was the comments on her spin on this "story".
    So many people jumping on the OMG I thought this too bandwagon, and one lone person pointing out its a freaking parody account being shouted down by someone who trusts a talking head who clearly has a loose grip on journalistic integrity more than someone pointing out the emperor is naked.
    And just because the 'net is that sort of place, when the man who allegedly "decorates" floors is the voice of reason on this, the shark… it has been jumped.

  3. Greta Van Theta says:

    Congratulations. You have successfully trolled a celebrity Scientologist. Proof that you are indeed minions of the Evil Psych Drug Lordz.

  4. More excellent propaganda from North Korea. Entirely GENUINE!

  5. Rick says:

    Once again proving that blogging and tweeting (and re-tweeting and re-re-tweeting) != journalism.

  6. Jim Tyre says:

    We're told, by the media, that we should trust their authority, that they have "layers of editors and fact-checkers" at their service. But sometimes they're no better than bloggers

    Why must you insult bloggers?

  7. En Passant says:

    The "North Korea state-owned news twitter feed" has taken in many journalists through the years, at publications and websites more and less prestigious, on the right and left sides of the ideological center.

    Thus proving just how brilliant Dear Fearless Wise Leader Kim Jong-Un really is. By doing nothing at all, simply by not disavowing the fake Twitter feed, He has sown confusion and fear in the Lying Imperialist Running Dog Lackey Propaganda Machine(tm).

  8. wanfuforever says:

    "suspisons" ….arrrrgh, it's like looking at a huge pimple in the middle of someone's forehead.

  9. Aw, I'm a little bit sad to lose the frisson of uncertainty about DPRK_News.

  10. Tilde says:

    So she took the page down.

  11. Fasolt says:

    Suspisons? I thought those were a kind of quantum particle or something like that. But seriously, if she is going to go with the phonetic spelling, she should have spelled it suspishons. Perhaps her ego is getting the best of her and she thinks her spelling is better. I'm sure her version will pop up in the OED in the next edition.

  12. Fasolt says:

    @Greta Van Theta, tip of the hat to you on the name.

  13. JanderPanell says:

    The parody account is pretty good, but you need to spread the 'bellicose' around to make it sound more authentic!

    Use this as an example: http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm

  14. J.R. says:

    To be fair, 90%+ of the "talking heads" on the tube, regardless of network or political orientation are pretentious buffoons. Same goes for most "guest experts."

    That said, to quote Bugs Bunny, "What a moroon." ROFL….

  15. Dave Fernig says:

    @Thatanonymouscoward The comments add spice – all down to believing THE WORD OF God/Supreme Leader, etc. Made my weekend, together with @Jihadistjoe having their Twitter account taken down.
    Laugh? We nearly shat.
    As they sang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZEEgIti8sM

  16. Fasolt says:

    Adding on to J.R.'s post, and with apologies to Via Angus, more from Bugs:

    What a gulli-bull. What a nin-cow-poop. What an im-bull-cile.

  17. Fasolt says:

    Hey, here's a First Amendment, ahem, expert who totally gets it.

  18. Joe McDermott says:

    Absolutely awesome.

  19. Kazzy says:

    Well, technically, your Biden post came 11minutes later.

  20. Marconi Darwin says:

    Sheer brilliance. And some absolutely brilliant trolling.

  21. Udarnik says:

    Ms. Van Theta is correct, Ms. Van Susteren is indeed a public Scientologist, although not an extremely high profile one. On top of that she works for Fox. Thus she is double-primed to swallow large loads of BS without examining beforehand what, exactly, she is consuming.

  22. Matthew Cline says:

    Never forget the war between North Korea and Cyprus. Never forget!

  23. Nick Bryson says:

    The obvious thing to do – a series along the lines of

    "US media including Greta Van Susteren admit corruption of West, and supremacy of Juche."
    "US media figure Greta Van Susteren asks for refuge in DPRK in order to reveal truth about imperialists."

  24. rmd says:

    Showing my ignorance here, but exactly how does one swoggle a horn? Or maybe it's woggle horns, I'm unclear on that too.

  25. Nick Bryson says:

    "Church of Scientology to drop religious texts in favor of Juche in New Year."

  26. David Byron says:

    It could be that one swoggles another by means of, or using, a horn.

  27. Karl Erich Martell says:

    Ah, Monday just got so much better now that I clicked on Popehat – thanks, all! :)

  28. amber says:

    For authentic North Korean Propaganda, literally translate Russian propaganda from 1920 to 1950, substituting the appropriate North Korean personality, or place-name.

  29. Amber. It isn't quite the same. While paranoia, self-congratulation, and astonishing belligerence are main ingredients in both, there are regional flavor differences.

  30. barry says:

    there are regional flavor differences.

    Does NPRK have the same defense as NSA, that SONY had no reasonable expectation of privacy?
    And does "we don't hack our own citizens" mitigate?

  31. I look forward to the first spontaneous mass demonstration of ideologically correct exercises in support of whatever Kim-Jong is currently waddling pointing unsmilingly at things.

  32. ULTRAGOTHA says:

    Slate, Washington Post, Fox, Newsweek, a Reuters reporter…. Does *anyone* fact check anymore??

  33. Turk says:

    With the Washington Post and Newsweek both getting punked today, I suspect you may have a long line of additional updates to come.

    Well played, Patrick, well played.

  34. Coming from you, that means something, Mr. Turkewitz.

  35. Laura says:

    She lost me at "suspison."

  36. bobby b says:

    Am I reading this correctly?

    Did you put out those fairly specific, quite detailed, frankly believable made-up posts of falsehoods all over so that you could see who you could fool?

    Or am I missing something?

    If you did, you're a putz.

    If not, I apologize. But I did do some quick googles and got confirmation of nothing, in my weak defense.

  37. BvR says:

    "The Curious Case of Twitter and a T.V. Twit"

  38. grouch says:

    Meanwhile, back at the lair of the pointy hat, Patrick Non-White confesses to secretly watching Faux News.

    Will his brain be consumed and composted by his heretofore unexposed depraved addiction? Why does he not deny that he raped and murdered Kim Jong-Un's predecessor? Can it be that he fears being sentenced to host a nightly debate show on Faux News?

    Tune in to Nightly Twits & Tits for the exciting answers, a week from some Tuesday (if Time ever figures out how to datestamp a story). [Not responsible if you become comatose while waiting for the 3 second news report hidden amongst 15 minutes of 30 second E.D. and miracle drug advertisements. Consult your doctor for nosebleeds lasting more than 4 hours. Do not take Faux News, Washington Compost, Advertisement Barrage Central News, No Bloody Clue News or Complete Bull Shit News if you have symptoms of independent thought or surviving brain cells. Women who are pregnant or could become pregnant should be running away — will no one think of the children?].

  39. bobby bb:

    If these tweets are indeed believable to you, well… I'll say that they all look like a parody to me.

  40. Rob says:

    This whole episode is a great illustration of how the flood of information/disinformation made possible by the Internet, the pressure for journalists to be the first to break a story, and lack of expertise (regarding the Sony hack) have all combined to humorous effect.
    Nice trolling—although some part of me wishes they hadn't been alerted to the error, so as to make it last longer.

  41. Stan says:

    I don't see how your "parody" is much different from being a common troll. North Korea parodies itself so successfully that your attempts are actually merely weak shadows of actuality. That's why it is easy to take your comments as fact.

  42. The account's pretty much served its purpose at this point, Rob, but it will take in others if Derrick and I choose to continue it. We may go underneath the waves for a while.

  43. Thank you Stan. What is the difference between a parody and a "common troll"? Any advice to help us improve would be appreciated.

  44. Rick C says:

    WaPo's edited the article and didn't put a correction.

  45. mikee says:

    I, for one, want very much to be banned from /r/Pyongyang!

    May Juche lead to the fall of the North Korean kleptocracy and may Kim Jong Un find holes in his stinky socks every morning forever!

  46. Char says:

    As one of an ancient and dying breed – a newspaper editor – I am both horrified and unsurprised. We have been instructed in no uncertain terms not to communicate with reporters for our website, as they will "self-edit." Being correct is not important, being first is.

  47. Robert Engler says:

    Fremdscham. It's not just for breakfast anymore.

  48. Rick C: I tweeted the two authors of the Washington Post story last night, pointing that out. They haven't responded.

  49. grouch says:

    Meanwhile, back at the lair of the pointy hat, Patrick Non-White confesses to secretly watching Faux News.

    Will his brain be consumed and composted by his heretofore unexposed depraved addiction? Why does he not deny that he raped and murdered Kim Jong-Un's predecessor? Can it be that he fears being sentenced to host a nightly debate show on Faux News?

    Tune in to Nightly Twits & Tits for the exciting answers, a week from some Tuesday (if Time ever figures out how to datestamp a story).
    [Not responsible if you become comatose while waiting for the 3 second news report hidden amongst 15 minutes of 30 second E.D. and miracle drug advertisements. Consult your doctor for nosebleeds lasting more than 4 hours. Do not take Faux News, Washington Compost, Advertisement Barrage Central News, No Bloody Clue News or Complete Bull Shit News if you have symptoms of independent thought or surviving brain cells. Women who are pregnant or could become pregnant should be running away. Will no one think of the children?].

    Patrick Non-White has made of himself a target. People can skip the commercials and come straight to the source of broadcast/cable news, now. Snowden didn't reveal secrets nearly that valuable and look what happened to him.

  50. En Passant says:

    ULTRAGOTHA December 22, 2014 at 8:43 pm:

    Does *anyone* fact check anymore??

    In elite capitalist stooge press, one horn swoggles the other.

  51. grouch says:

    Sorry for double post. Meant to be a P.S. only. Stupid auto-geenyus stuff.

  52. albert says:

    @Patrick Non-White

    Thanks for the laff!
    My suspisons were aroused imedeitly, when I saw the screenshot. Again someone proves the dictum: Americans _just don't get_ satire and parody, can't spell. and the MSM are US Corporate/Government tools (in both senses of the word). IIRC, the FBI is responsible for bringing NK into this. Anyone with two or more brain cells connected together can see that FOX"news" is going take the bait, and the others will as well. The whole Sony thing is laughable, the MSM is a joke, and what would we do without teapot tempests to occupy our time?
    .
    There are some serious discussions on the Sony "hack"; see http://www.Schneier.com, for example.
    .
    I gotta go…

  53. Nancy says:

    Patrick, is there some sort of award we can give you? You definitely deserve one.

  54. Scaryduck says:

    I actually work as a North Korea analyst and your account is *pretty much* like the real thing would look. You need more "human scum" when you refer to the US, though. That's 'Human scum'

  55. Fasolt says:

    From the fifth update:

    On Sunday, the account's unnamed owner…

    I know his name.

  56. Donna Lands says:

    Basically you decided to insult someone's intelligence and set them up. Wow! What a guy! Sounds typical of a Liberal Jerk to me. Then you have your jerk comrades cheering your immature behavior. Grow up Popehat!!!!! 🚼

  57. Thank you Ms. Lands. You have made my day.

  58. AlphaCentauri says:

    Having totally owned this form of parody, I'd like to see if you can create a twitter feed for a completely non-existent but plausible-sounding country and get a news agency to pick up your tweets.

  59. Derrick says:

    The account's notifications feed is just swamped with a lot of references to the recent "outing", but there are still a few people who think it's real.

    I went through the entire feed from January and there was just so many moments where I was going, "I can't believe that didn't give it away".

  60. Czernobog says:

    "They seem harmless enough but these days who knows."

    Oh god, I'm going to be chuckling over this comment for next three weeks at the most inopportune times.

  61. David Byron says:

    "Hail, hail, Freedonia! Land of the free and brave!"

  62. Fasolt says:

    @Donna Lands:

    Basically you decided to insult someone's intelligence and set them up. Wow! What a guy! Sounds typical of a Liberal Jerk to me. Then you have your jerk comrades cheering your immature behavior. Grow up Popehat!!!!! 🚼

    Are you familiar with the concept of parody? I wasn't aware that the act of parody insults people's intelligence. I also wasn't aware that parody is automatically immature behavior. If a person or news organization can't be bothered to do source verification or do even a smidgen of research to validate their stories, you can't blame Patrick for that.

    Are you saying that Liberals typically insult people's intelligence? That kind of behavior certainly isn't limited to any one political party. I'd wander around the Popehat site a bit before you launch into ad hominem attacks. I don't think Popehat is quite the bastion of "Liberal Jerks" you make it out to be.

  63. Matt says:

    @patrick why are people so liberal with their comments? That darn speech thing, which people use, how dare they! Obviously.

    This was an awesome read, and kudos to all of you for making me wonder how specific individuals manage to be gainfully employed once confirmation bias becomes so excessive (such as Greta).

  64. Conster says:

    So according to the Huffington Post, North Korea called Obama a monkey. Ken?

  65. Manatee says:

    "[person] has parlayed her expertise into a nightly primetime show on the Fox News Channel.

    Where she pontificates on matters outside her expertise."

    Insert just about any name in there and this statement remains true. Ditto if you swap Fox News for MSNBC.

  66. Derailleur says:

    @Donna, it's definitely not "insult[ing] someone's intelligence and set[ting] them up." The entire point is that the media isn't just supposed to parrot what some random idiot says. They media tries to sell their wares on the lie that they are doing the ground work to ensure they are giving an accurate representation of events. By taking the DPKR News Service tweets (TWEETS for the love of coffee! How far as a society have we sank when frikking Twitter is some sort of official news source?) as genuine and then piling on by adding "which often disseminates the regimes official propaganda" in an effort to further convince readers that this is an official DPKR twitter account, they've proven they're nothing more than common gossips, adding flavor to the lie as they spread it.

    No, this isn't trying to insult someone. This is pointing out that the emperor has no clothes.

  67. Fasolt says:

    I'm most surprised the DPRK News Service has not yet trumpeted this most glorious repelling of the Imperialist U.S. military from North Korea. An event that the U.S. government has managed to keep quiet.

  68. Fasolt says:

    North Korea Documentary: How Americans Live Today, Survive By Eating Birds And Snow: North Korea TV

    OK, who let the North Korean camera crew in to spill the beans?

    On the upside, I received a lot of snow for Christmas, and with careful rationing, I think I can get a whole year out of it.

  69. Fasolt says:

    They seem harmless enough but these days who knows.

    Harmless? I don't think so. Observe the DPRK Army's preparation for the upcoming U.S. military attack using bricks and roof tiles. Who leaked that? That could jeopardize the whole operation. We might have to switch to boards or drywall sheets.

  70. Levi says:

    Damn, I spent hours using a rock to hack out a stick and beat some metal scraps into a pick-axe Rust-style to use in my part of the assault, but at 2:14 it looks like they have already trained to specifically defeat my tactics.

  71. The real bottom line is that, despite FBI bleatings and blatherings, there's little evidence that North Korea was behind the Sony hack, while there's continuing and growing evidence that it was actually an inside job.

    Assuming this is the case, and assuming that Dear Leader (my name for Obama, crafted independently of seeing Team America) is behind North Korea's lack of Internet, then isn't Dear Leader a cyberwarmonger? I say yes:

    http://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2014/12/obama-cyberwarmonger-against-north-korea.html

  72. Paul says:

    I know I'm 12 days late, but just checking in to point out that the only thing things that are inaccurate about the North Korean socialist Godzilla movie are the year and the instigator

    It actually happened in 1985. Kim Jong Il was responsible.

    He had a South Korean director and actress kidnapped to make it for him. It was called "Pulgasari"

  73. Fasolt says:

    I checked out that movie on IMDB. Here's the summary:

    In feudal Korea, the evil King becomes aware that there is a peasant rebellion being planned in the country. He steals all the iron farming tools and cooking pots from the people so that he may make weapons to fend off the peasant army. After he returns the property to the people, an old blacksmith is imprisoned and starved to death. His last creation is a tiny figurine of a monster- Pulgasari, a Godzilla-like creature that eats iron. The blood of his daughter brings the creature to life, and fights with the poor, starving peasants to overthrow the corrupt monarchy.

    At first I thought it was a documentary, but was disappointed to read it wasn't.

  74. AlphaCentauri says:

    The "North Korea ready to invade USA" is reminiscent of Monty Python's training to resist attacks with fruit, isn't it. I was just waiting for the guy with the M-16 to strafe all the guys grunting and rolling around to shut them up.

    The last part, on the other hand, very much needs to be re-edited to the music of "The Electric Slide," I think.

  75. Mark Wing says:

    Any normal, well-adjusted person says "bravo, good sirs" when pranked this hard. It takes a special kind of stupid to double-down on their ignorance like that.

  76. David Byron says:

    Did y'all notice that WaPo not only revised their DPRK failure without issuing a correction (as mentioned above in this thread), but also included the DPRK hoax in their What Was Fake This Week epitome without mentioning that someone at WaPo had fallen for it?

  77. Fasolt says:

    CNN owned it in a correction:

    CNN's Tina Burnside contributed to this report. Note: An earlier version of this story included a tweet from what was actually a parody account. CNN regrets the error.

    I marvel that people are still falling for this. Either the staffing turnover at the news organizations is high, so there is no institutional memory of them getting pranked or they all have selective memory loss issues.

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